February 8th, 2022
February 8th, 2022
8 Feb 2022 · page 1099 of 1306

One of a few pages that will read better when read in sequence rather than week by week, sorry

Cast: Lei Feng, Verity Cunningham

Comments (66)

  • Hours 4 years ago archived

    Our villains may be using an optimistic definition of anchor here! One thing that money doesn't change, but it can get the manpower to try it anyways...

  • Moe Lane 4 years ago archived

    Those fools.

    Those damned, ignorant fools.

    • Kathy Kemmish 4 years ago archived

      They have no idea how the Anchors work.

      • Moe Lane 4 years ago archived

        I suspect it's even worse than that: I think they have a vague idea how the Anchors work. I have no idea how the Anchors work, which is why I wouldn't go within twenty feet of one unless my hands were firmly in my pockets. :)

        • Emily 4 years ago archived

          A little knowledge is a dangerous thing!

  • Sturzkampf 4 years ago archived

    If it’s in international waters and no-one claims ownership - or even knows it exists - is it possible to steal it?

    • JWLM 4 years ago archived

      That's a nice legal question, actually. First, there's a jurisdictional question: under which country's legal system would this be adjudicated? And, second, under what theory would it be possible to consider this a theft, if any?


      The answer to the first one would almost certainly be international maritime law. The second? That depends on whether there's a notion of the enclosure of the commons under maritime law, and, if so, when is it legal or illegal.


      Does anybody know of a lawyer, say, back in Widdershins, who might be willing to do that legal research?

      • D. Schwartz 4 years ago archived

        And it wouldn't be modern maritime law but the law of the time so about 1840 or so. And from my limited information it basically went: If it doesn't clearly belong to someone and is found out side of sovereign waters/on the high seas feel free to grab it.


        Which would not make this theft in a legal sense but it could be considered theft in a moral sense.

        • JWLM 4 years ago archived

          I'm not sure that 'theft' is a strong enough term for 'taking a major geological feature and privatizing it'.

          • Milo Kim 4 years ago archived

            Luckily, we actually have a host of terms from this very period which are far more appropriate than "theft": "discover", "explore", "colonize", and "conquest", to name a few!

        • BrokenEye 4 years ago archived

          Ah yes, the principal of Acquiris Quodcumquae Rapis.

          • Sturzkampf 4 years ago archived

            Possession is nine tenths of the law.

        • Pigrim 4 years ago archived

          The 1840 colonial British/American manifest destiny standard was: It's ours if we want it and we'll kill anyone who tries to stop us.

    • Radiance 4 years ago archived

      Carmen Sandiego: "Yes."

    • BrokenEye 4 years ago archived

      Legally? No. Physically? Hold my beer.

    • drealm2459 4 years ago archived

      which ever country has the most people die because of his nutjob plan

    • codebracker 4 years ago archived

      He is salvaging the anchor

    • Perrin Rynning 4 years ago archived

      I get the distinct impression that arguing over property rights in this particular context might have similar consequences to arguing over control of the land-bridge that once closed off the Straits of Gibraltar; the party that decided "Well, maybe I'll just destroy it so neither of us will have it!" produced the Mediterranean Sea, and all that that implies.

  • LiterallyJustSomeGuy 4 years ago archived

    Now I'm picturing all the anchors as boat anchors, including the mountain anchor.

  • Emily 4 years ago archived

    That explains the diving suit Patience had in the cupboard! [https://www.widdershinscomi...](https://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/november-9th-2021 "https://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/november-9th-2021")

  • Steve Shipway 4 years ago archived

    Hey - going by the famous gun-and-globe theory -- if they move THIS one, will the Widdershins anchor start to move correspondingly as well?

    • BrokenEye 4 years ago archived

      Only one way to find out.

    • cuspiscentium 4 years ago archived

      I think the island anchor is opposite Widdershins, given the bullet exited near Australia. The Mountain Anchor on the other hand is presumably in the right place.

      • Steve Shipway 4 years ago archived

        Ah yes, you're right. So the Mountain anchor is the one potentially moving when they do their little experiment

        • Emily 4 years ago archived

          Arpana won't be too happy about that!

          • cuspiscentium 4 years ago archived

            Would be both horrifyingly destructive yet hilarious if the mountain moved with its anchor.

            • cuspiscentium 4 years ago archived

              New stupid thought, perhaps the anchor was moved in the past and that is why one is on a mountain while the other is deep in the ocean. If they find the lost city of Atlanta at the anchor site, I am going to laugh.

      • Tilly Jackson 4 years ago archived

        Looks about right! Shame Eliza couldn't just google "earth sandwich tool" instead of relying on shooting a globe.

    • JWLM 4 years ago archived

      Nah -- they'd just have to move the peak of Everest, not the whole mountain.


      What could possibly go wrong?

  • BaronHaynes 4 years ago archived

    I wonder if the reason advanced technology doesn't work in 2013 Widdershins is because there was a history of jackasses like Pryce using it to try and steal anchors, so they maintain a city-wide Faraday cage or something like it to deter this kind of meddling.

    • BCB 4 years ago archived

      I thought it was just because magic interferes with technology, but maybe you are on to something.

      • BaronHaynes 4 years ago archived

        I'm having trouble loading the older comics atm, but I remember there were summoning circles drawn around internet cables in the cafe where Ethan is meeting his husband at the end of Chapter 4. It's possible there's a natural interference and eventually they just find a way around it, but I always wondered if it was a deliberate thing.


        Alexa's cellphone worked when Jack used it in the Witch Control Room as well, but maybe it's one of those things that works differently in that room, or when the witch does it.


        Edit: Here's the one I was thinking of. It might just be for the lamps.

        [https://www.widdershinscomi...](https://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/march-7th-2014 "https://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/march-7th-2014")

        • JWLM 4 years ago archived

          Yeah, but remember that Alexa's cell phone also worked when she used it to set off the flour bomb at the climax of that volume.

        • Alétheia 4 years ago archived

          I think her cell phone working was just One Of Those Things. A couple of comics after the one you linked has the conductor of the train (IIRC?) that Alexa was heading home on letting passengers know that it was safe for them to use electronics again ( [https://www.widdershinscomi...](https://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/march-19th-2014 "https://www.widdershinscomic.com/wdshn/march-19th-2014") ); I assume there's an announcement like that at the beginning of the chapter when she was heading into Widdershins, too, but I'm time-crunched right now and can't find it, haha.

  • bwooom 4 years ago archived

    wait hold on let them do this. i think itll be really funny

    • Milo Kim 4 years ago archived

      Cons: This is a TERRIBLE idea and will almost certainly have disastrous consequences for everyone involved.

      Pros: This a terrible idea and will almost certainly have disastrous hilarious consequences for everyone involved.

  • D. Schwartz 4 years ago archived

    Well they seem pretty certain they can do that.

  • Nah 4 years ago archived

    T hi is feels like trying to move the North Pole by stealing enough snow and dirt from around it

  • ValtheDrake 4 years ago archived

    An action that, I'm sure, can have no far reaching consequences whatsoever.

  • Emily 4 years ago archived

    This is the first time we've seen Vee without the jacket part of this outfit (not to mention the jabot). I really like the little detail of the shirt having a drawstring under the bust to create the pigeon-breasted effect we see when she has her jacket on.

    • Pigrim 4 years ago archived

      Which makes perfect sense because a structured shirt would probably have been an 1840s women's best/only alternative to a corset and a drawstring would have been necessary before the invention of elastics. It's a brilliant deduction if it's not based on actual historical examples

      • Kathy Kemmish 4 years ago archived

        I research pre-1700 garb, so I'm not that up on Victorian. However, the way they got the 'look' before elastic was Pleating. Lots and Lots of small pleats that would accordian out to allow for curvature.

        Also, for ladies at that time, everything was tailor-made. Either you made it yourself, or you paid a seamstress to make it for you. So I could see Vee snarling about little tiny pin-tucked pleats, saying "Bugger off!", and just putting in a drawstring. She would also be wearing "Rational Wear", which did not use a corset, and was a "freer fit" very popular with the BlueStockings

  • Héctor Browne 4 years ago archived

    Wait wait wait. Is this whole arc an excuse for a "ship" and it's "anchor" joke? Because that's genious.

    • Glotos 4 years ago archived

      No, no. Different pun. Pemberton Pryce wants the Anchor. It's a shipping story.

    • The Sidhekin 4 years ago archived

      Weigh anchor!

  • ajaxgb 4 years ago archived

    I swear, she's going to turn that piece of paper around to reveal a 2011-era troll science comic. "I will simply attach a large electromagnet to the Bermuda Triangle and tow it away"


    It's the sort of plan only a man like Pryce could come up with. Zero actual understanding of magic or science, unshakeable confidence in himself, enough money to implement it without oversight, and a complete absence of anyone willing to tell him "this is stark raving mad." The scariest thing is that it actually might work, or at least work well enough to get to the "everything explodes" stage.

    • Artdalek 4 years ago archived

      With the unshakeable confidence, plus the certainty engine, he could literally succeed! 😱

      • BrokenEye 4 years ago archived

        So what we need to do is destroy Pryce's self-confidence.

        • Kathy Kemmish 4 years ago archived

          We don't have to destroy HIS confidence. We just have to destroy everyone else's confidence IN him.

          • M. Peach 4 years ago archived

            That would be surprisingly easy to do.

    • ajaxgb 4 years ago archived

      And here it is:

  • McFrugal 4 years ago archived

    This sounds like it'd have apocalyptic consequences if it actually works and doesn't just... pull a nonmagical chunk of the seafloor onto the ship.

    • Kathy Kemmish 4 years ago archived

      The cover-art to this chapter did have a sinking ship.

  • Darkoneko Hellsing 4 years ago archived

    wow, a mobile anchor uh. A nifty idea

    • BrokenEye 4 years ago archived

      A chicken in every pot and an anchor in every home.

    • Milo Kim 4 years ago archived

      For far too long have American ships had to lug around heavy, dangerous, anchors about while struggling to stay afloat! Order now, and get a limited-edition prototype of Pemberton's Anchor 2.0, which is far easier & safer to transport on lightweight seagoing craft!

  • JWLM 4 years ago archived

    I love Vee rolling her eyes in panel 2. You can just hear the sigh in her voice.

  • Sorlian 4 years ago archived

    Yes... lets remove something called an Anchor from its place, never mind what it is anchoring! Though what even would they do with it? Probably just the prestige of having one... damned people with too much money.

  • Desu 4 years ago archived

    Well, Pryce might be certain the engine will hoist up the Anchor, but is this going to be a case of an immovable object meeting an irresistible force?


    Also who is to say the raised Anchor might not be a bit heavier, or not so easy to contain, which I have a sinking feeling will lead to this titanic endeavor tipping over and going down


    Ha, the next few pages are going to be mighty interesting ^_^

    • Kathy Kemmish 4 years ago archived

      Looking at the other Anchors -- you can't move a mountain, a pit in the earth, nor an island, this is going to be something you can't physically move.

      I may be stretching here, but the Mountain and the Pit seem to correlate, one Up and one Down. The Island is UP above the sea, so if my theory is right, this Anchor is going to be Down a Blue Hole in the ocean floor, and there are several in the Gulf of Mexico, particularly near the Yucatan coast and the Bahamas.

      • Desu 4 years ago archived

        No, you're right, the Anchors do correlate. Like you said one is on top of the tallest point on Earth, the other at the lowest deep under water.


        Then you have the Widdershin one in a large city surrounded by people, and the Island one, without any people on it save its Witch which stays there in one small house

  • A C 4 years ago archived

    There was a point when I was trying to read Alexander McCall Smith's 44 Scotland Street when it became really, really obvious it was published a page of two at a time, because every little section had to establish scene and do some major plot and it got choppy, monotonous... and couldn't possibly devote enough time to major events.


    In a high-art-labour comic like Widdershins, better to have some pages that feel incomplete on weekly reading than damage the end product. One of these is temporary.

  • Sturzkampf 4 years ago archived

    Is Pryce's plan to er... appropriate the Anchor a Bad Thing? Magic is generally reckoned to be beneficial to humanity, but only Widdershins Anchor is in play. Mountain Anchor is accessible but remote, Island Anchor is Ms Nyree's personal property and there's no-one at all at Sea Anchor (except the inevitable giant octopus). By moving Sea Anchor to a populated area such as the East coast of America and bringing magic to all the people there, isn't Pryce benefitting everyone?

    • Sanjay Merchant 4 years ago archived

      Boston is confusing enough to navigate without adding literal magic to it.

    • Milo Kim 4 years ago archived

      This was actually my second thought upon reading the page! My first thought was, "There's no way this will actually move the anchor, and even if does, it will almost certainly explode." My third thought was, "Another Anchor close to civilization might be nice in the long run, but Pryce would probably rather die than let it benefit EVERYONE - just himself, thank you, and possibly his immediate family members."

  • codebracker 4 years ago archived

    Hoist the anchors!

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